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October 15, 2010


Matthew Lewis

I don't want to defend Obama on this issue, as I think he's been pretty negligent on it, and as Glenn Greenwald has pointed out, there is precedent for a president to decide not to appeal a case like this.

That said, having 60 senators with a D (or I) next to their name is not the same as having 60 votes for repeal of DADT. When it did come up for a vote recently, Arkansas Democratic Senators Pryor and Lincoln voted no on cloture, along with all 41 Republicans. (Harry Reid also voted no, but for procedural reasons, so that he could bring it back up for a vote at a later date once it was clear the cloture motion would fail.)

I'm just not convinced there were ever 60 votes for repeal, certainly before the Pentagon finishes its review. Unfortunately, by that time, there will be more GOP seats that are unlikely to support repeal no matter what the report says.

Tung Yin

Fair enough about Democrats not voting monolithically.

But the same was true for health care reform, TARP, and financial regulation. The difference was that Obama cared *enough* about those issues to twist arms, etc.

And if you think about it, your point that there will be more Republican Senators after 11/2 makes it even odder for Obama to be appealing the decision. Shouldn't he be MORE inclined to let the court have its way, knowing that he's LESS likely to get his way with Congress after the elections?

Roger Fortier

Twisting arms over the objections of the servicemen who have to live with the enlightened decisions of the ruling class is the wrong approach. Service is a privilege, not a right. The armed forces operates on a stricter moral code than most who have not served can imagine.

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